Is sample holder collectible?
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On 7/13/2020 at 12:32 AM, Dominic Lim said:

just a newbie question..

is sample holder collectible? do PMG regularly give this away on any of their shows/events?

thanks

There is a small market for PMG samples but these are not regularly given away at shows. PMG typically provides samples for a first time submitter (at a show) or for charitable causes. 

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It also depends on the note in the holder.  Some people collect sample holders (I have some), and some people may just want the note.  Either keep it or list it.  I am sure someone will buy it if the price is right. 

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I won a sample note from PMG back when they ran a trivia contest for members (yes, those were the good 'ole days).  It was a Malaysia, Bank Negara Pick #51 1 Ringgit ND (2012) PMG Unc Sample PMG Collectors Society Trivia Contest SN AG6140428 PMG 1528092-028 Sign. Z.A. Aziz, - Polymer Note

I don't have a pic to post (Sorry), but it's at least one generation removed from the current PMG holder.  It is the only sample holder in my collection.  If there's a massive groundswell of demand (i.e. 5 likes on this post ought to represent a groundswell around here), I'll dig it out and post a pic.

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Dig it out! Dig it out!

No image available on Verify PMG Certification, well done.:golfclap:

Trivia contest or the like could be fun around here, guess the grade, real or fake, etc. Just for bragging rights and the education. 

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There are certainly people that collect holders - for PMG and NGC - but they're a very small niche thing / group. Most people care about what's in the holder. A few others like me sometimes get a little type-A about wanting all the holders on coins / notes in a set to match or closely match. Even there though, for me, I only care if that set / collection is very important to me / one of my main sets / projects.

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The groundswell is building...

ddr70, get ready to dig that note out in three months. At this pace that's about when you'll hit the 5 likes mark. Glad you didn't put a time limit on this.:roflmao:

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I'll redouble my efforts :-)  What happens with 5 likes?  Do you get a badge?  Like a steamin' pile o' sheckels?  ;)

Anybody know how many PMG note holder types that PMG has used in the past 15 years?  I just know of 2--the current holder and the one before that one.

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39 minutes ago, ddr70 said:

I'll redouble my efforts :-)  What happens with 5 likes?  Do you get a badge?  Like a steamin' pile o' sheckels?  ;)

Anybody know how many PMG note holder types that PMG has used in the past 15 years?  I just know of 2--the current holder and the one before that one.

I think they called the new one a gen-4 holder.

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5 hours ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

Cool notes everyone.:golfclap:

Are both of those the green tinted holders?

They both seem to have the lower transmittance that is the hallmark (IMO) of the old gen, green tint holders...

Not sample holders, but the following two images were made at basically the same time using the same imaging method (cheap scanner) and the old gen holder image is just so much darker.

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1 hour ago, Revenant said:

They both seem to have the lower transmittance that is the hallmark (IMO) of the old gen, green tint holders...

Not sample holders, but the following two images where made at basically the same time using the same imaging method (cheap scanner) and the old gen holder image is just so much darker.

I was pretty sure but it was a little harder to tell on the Philippine note. So glad they were able to improve the holder and get rid of the tint.:bigsmile:

On 8/29/2020 at 11:55 AM, Revenant said:

I think they called the new one a gen-4 holder.

I do remember PMG launching the "Gen 4" earlier this year but it seems like it was more of a label and sticker (hologram) change than anything. I'm not sure if the holder is Gen 4 or if the label is, or both?  https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/article/8221/new-pmg-label-and-holder/

The Gen 3 was launched in late March of 2016  https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/article/5201/PMG-Launches-New-Clearer-Holder/ 

The Gen 2 was launched back on January 3, 2011 https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/article/1918/Second-Generation-Holder/ 

Regardless, they still have a description of the PMG holder (with an image of a holder with the new label) listing the current holder/label as "Introduced in 2016, the third-generation PMG holder" which if correct would mean the current holder is still Gen 3 and the label is Gen 4? Maybe? :whatev:

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On 9/3/2020 at 8:55 PM, Dominic Lim said:

posting another example.. anyone interested?

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Just 4 off from a radar.  I'd bid it up to about $10 if it were at auction.  Nice they gave it a grade.

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