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The seller was on the ball about getting these mailed out and they look pretty good for things that were supposed to be used once and thrown away nearly 20 years ago:

I'm on the fence at the moment about whether I want to 1) Submit the P-15s or not since I have one of these graded already and 2) Do I want to submit both of each or pick one and go with it / hope for the best. 

There's a part of me that says "Gradually, Then Suddenly," only needs one each of these and that I could use some of that grading credit to grade fuel coupons and such instead. There's another part of me that finds these interesting with the different dates and stamps and different banks / branches canceling them and thinks that a deeper dive into that could even be fodder for a signature set of its own. For instance, most of these are canceled in 2003, with some in 2004, but one of these P-16s showed that it was canceled in 2005 - what's the story there? And then there's just the other little things about these - how some where stamped on the front versus the back and some were stamped upside down or how some are dated in pencil lol and just all the little quirks that these things acquire from having been canceled.

Mike had indicated that he was interested in playing a little guess-the-grade and so below are front and back scans of all 12 checks, starting with the P-15s.

There's a P-19 stamped on 10/18, like that graded P-18 I saw a while back. Dang. Just not quite hitting it with that date.

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Mike had indicated that he was interested in playing a little guess-the-grade and so below are front and back scans of all 12 checks, starting with the P-15s.

I'm in! Only thing I'm not sure of is how much the cancelation stamps and signatures detract from the note, guess it doesn't matter since they are all signed and stamped. Studying now. 

Submitting multiples is a tough question, I do (modern NCLT coins) to one increase my odds of a 70 with little or no risk, two to sell off the other recouping my money if a 69 and/or making a little profit if 70. Something like this is a different animal with a seemingly small collector pool, but in this instance with so few graded you might be able to sell them off for a profit and/or break even. On the other hand if you do submit multiples, with the long lead times if you did want to send in a second submissions after this one you might miss the deadline. Agh! If it's me I submit one of each including the P15 just so I have a straight run of consecutive Cert #'s, I would like the orderliness of consecutive #'s in my set, then I would tack on as many other bills as possible to fill gaps or add the fuel coupons. If there was left over money after that (from the prize winnings) I would consider adding the additional Cheques.

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6 hours ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

I'm in! Only thing I'm not sure of is how much the cancelation stamps and signatures detract from the note, guess it doesn't matter since they are all signed and stamped. Studying now. 

I've seen canceled examples get grades in the 63-67 range so I don't think PMG dings them too bad and looks at the condition of the document while almost ignoring the writing from a "damage" perspective. 

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Ok, this was tough! I had to use some deductive reasoning with these. Ok, so my thought process is that none of these will beat the current Top Pop notes. Reason being, I'm assuming all the top notes were not claimed (stamped/written on). With my ceiling established I down graded from there. I feel like I'm a little harsh with my guesses and hopefully the notes go up from there. I'm going to rest my eyes for a min and take a look again this week, might tweak a few numbers.

1K 0017747 = 62

1K 0017726 = 60

5K 0289816 = 60

5K 0100726 = 61

10K 0089344 = 62

10K 0089586 = 62

20K 0103850 = 62

20K 0103852 = 62

50K 0108813 = 60

50K 0097162 = 62

100K 0081419 = 60

100K 0071977 = 62

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2 hours ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

Ok, this was tough! I had to use some deductive reasoning with these. Ok, so my thought process is that none of these will beat the current Top Pop notes. Reason being, I'm assuming all the top notes were not claimed (stamped/written on). With my ceiling established I down graded from there. I feel like I'm a little harsh with my guesses and hopefully the notes go up from there. I'm going to rest my eyes for a min and take a look again this week, might tweak a few numbers.

1K 0017747 = 62

1K 0017726 = 60

5K 0289816 = 60

5K 0100726 = 61

10K 0089344 = 62

10K 0089586 = 62

20K 0103850 = 62

20K 0103852 = 62

50K 0108813 = 60

50K 0097162 = 62

100K 0081419 = 60

100K 0071977 = 62

I will be THRILLED if they come back with 60+ grades. We'll see. I mostly just want something reasonably nice for closing this gap in my set and the story I want to tell with it.

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WOW, interesting that there is a market still developing for these items.

I picked up ten of each of these denominations on a visit to the Reserve Bank, Harare in 2003. UNC condition was no problem except for the Z$1000 as only five examples were available a consecutive pair in UNC and the others were ranging from XF to aUNC. I sold every note as close by as South Africa where I was rushed by collectors and later elsewhere around the planet. 

For my own collection, I kept the consecutive pair and a single.

Was not planning to have these graded as no difference was made between stamped/marked ones and ones which did not go through the process. I remember that the counter staff at the Reserve Bank was not that keen that I did not sign the notes in front of them. I had to provide an acceptable explanation to be able to do so.

Please have a look at my examples below.

 

 

Zimbabwe Pick 15 consecutive pair a.jpg

Zimbabwe Pick 15 consecutive pair b.jpg

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17 minutes ago, IndoHound said:

WOW, interesting that there is a market still developing for these items.

I picked up ten of each of these denominations on a visit to the Reserve Bank, Harare in 2003. UNC condition was no problem except for the Z$1000 as only five examples were available a consecutive pair in UNC and the others were ranging from XF to aUNC. I sold every note as close by as South Africa where I was rushed by collectors and later elsewhere around the planet. 

For my own collection, I kept the consecutive pair and a single.

Was not planning to have these graded as no difference was made between stamped/marked ones and ones which did not go through the process. I remember that the counter staff at the Reserve Bank was not that keen that I did not sign the notes in front of them. I had to provide an acceptable explanation to be able to do so.

Please have a look at my examples below.

 

 

Zimbabwe Pick 15 consecutive pair a.jpg

Zimbabwe Pick 15 consecutive pair b.jpg

Wow. Those would be amazingly rare in that condition. I have no idea what you could get for them if you found the right person. I'm not sure which way my preferences lean on these honestly. The pristine ones like yours are interesting to look at and rarer but they lack some of the character and history of the stamped ones.

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